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Post by Kolomo on May 2, 2015 17:41:38 GMT
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Post by Kolomo on May 2, 2015 17:42:25 GMT
ramana
V. Ganesan the Grand Nephew of Sri Ramana Maharshi:
"Jnana marga (the Path of Knowledge) is the highest and the purest teaching in the realm of spirituality. To remain ever as the non-dual Self (Advaita) is the essence of jnana-marga.
Swami Vivekananda said: "If taken as theory, Advaita (the teachings of non-duality) is a millstone around one's neck; but if put into practice, it is Liberation itself".
Bhagavan Ramana lived this Truth every moment of His 54 years of living at Arunachala. His last instructions: "Put the Teaching into Practice" to the 20 and odd old devotees who approached him for his final message.
Books written on jnana marga are therefore only sign-posts. One has to practice it every moment of one's life.
Bhagavan Ramana when asked as to how to progress in sadhana (spiritual practice) replied: "Practice, Practice, Practice!""
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Post by Kolomo on Jul 18, 2015 20:45:42 GMT
Wow, I felt this video a bit disturbing on many levels - general disrespect, not really listening to others' point of view, undertone of anger, a hip trend to be an atheist and put others down, arrogance all around and not the least they don't let the woman speak. I think they might need to smoke some happy juice and watch the first video in this thread.
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Post by bee on Jul 19, 2015 3:46:53 GMT
It can all be viewed as a bit of a comedy especially this gem- "...are your neurons doing that or are you doing that? ...then you're a zombie". But woven into all the exchanges there was one jewel uttered, "We are the mighty ocean in the drop". It's quite funny how the quantum scientists can acknowledge the results of the double slit but then refute that it also applies to the moon. I see some miss the obvious in the quantum world which is for any flow to be present the end point must already exist. I seem to remember a clip a year or so ago with Watts explaining the finish exists already and that we as the potentiality complete the bringing of it into being. As with electric current in a circuit, just having a potential difference present doesn't create a current flow that there must also be a closed circuit. This means the end point must pre-exist and looking deeper then it's not the end point.
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Post by bee on Jul 19, 2015 4:31:05 GMT
In the double-slit the observer is the potential and the end point, or the light and the completion. Yes?
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Post by bee on Jul 19, 2015 4:43:36 GMT
Searching for that clip I don't know if this is it as it's in two parts, the 2nd though has what I was referring to. He is using the analogy of current even though he is looking at DC, but still the same premise holds true with AC, in that the end must be there for the beginning to take place. There is no electric current waiting and doesn't start unless the point of arrival is already there. And when one rests further into the above we see we are pure potentiality or like the potential or the voltage which in electrical engineering terms is called potential difference.
Also touches on Zen with an introspection of persisting in the state of delusion in order to see through it.
part 1
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Post by Kolomo on Jul 19, 2015 20:40:15 GMT
Ya, your right, it is kind of comical and reflective of this so called dream state. But even Deepak- its like he is yelling at you, maybe he should try laying off the coffee a bit. I can’t imagine he’d be much fun to have as a dad.
I like the Watts' videos. It seems he is expressing the subject – object appearance or illusion. There would be no objects without a subject and without objects the subject would be unknown. Hence, there are no things whatever, but their source only. It also gave me second thoughts about my post of the monks staring at the floor all day long. Maybe the abbot had a plan after all but it still seems a bit round about. I didn’t quite get the electric circuit, the whole idea of time threw me, maybe another listen might help
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Post by bee on Jul 20, 2015 7:38:36 GMT
Just reading my post now, yikes a lot of spelling errors, was done on the run so to edit...
Perceiving is the closing of the circuit regardless if it's the double-slit or the helicopter by Leonardo.
I understand he is using time to make it easier for most to comprehend, as the seed already is the mature plant. The differences that occur are inherent in where the seed has germinated which can be likened to choices we make. So therefore following this, it is implying that resident within any choice the outcome already exists, it's just that we don't see or experience it yet.
So let's take this a bit further, when I look at say a person acting a certain way, well now that is what I am perceiving isn't it? So now if we "double-slit" this we realise the outcome already is and contained within the perception, maybe just not seen as yet. So this is our choice being fulfilled at the moment of choice, but the experience of the choice, or the consequence of it, generally has yet to occur. (Again our perception).
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Post by Kolomo on Aug 7, 2015 19:51:16 GMT
Thought this was worth sharing
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Post by Kolomo on Aug 12, 2015 13:18:12 GMT
I thought to delete the video, whild I though it funny perhaps it could be offensive to others
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