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Post by clouddust on Mar 3, 2015 0:58:22 GMT
I'm here. It will take a little bit to adjust to the 'newness' of the forum, but I'm excited to be able to discuss, reply and interact with everyone again. (Hi AZ  |
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Welcome Clouddust!!
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Post by Welcome Clouddust!! on Mar 3, 2015 1:38:09 GMT
Warm Welcome Clouddust! Love,
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Post by tony on Mar 3, 2015 3:08:42 GMT
Welcome back Clouddust. I was missing you!
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Post by Kolomo on Mar 3, 2015 3:10:04 GMT
Welcome, thanks for finally joining. Yes, this site is a little different but I will change your status to administrator and if you want to express your inner geek and tweak it.
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Post by bee on Mar 3, 2015 13:30:54 GMT
Hi clouddust it's so nice to see you here  This lady welcomes you too.
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Post by clouddust on Mar 4, 2015 0:11:15 GMT
Thank you, all, for the warm welcome. I am back and looking forward to contributing to discussions, though, as you know, I may have a differing opinion. But I don't think you will mind at all; right? Hey, where's Arlene Z.? I don't see her posting anywhere. Thanks again, CD
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Post by Kolomo on Mar 4, 2015 2:46:45 GMT
It be great to have different opinions - kevin
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Post by tony on Mar 4, 2015 9:17:37 GMT
As you may have noticed, I have a penchant for the use of words. There is a difference between having an 'opinion' and having a 'conviction' about something. I think we all come from conviction, which is a heartfelt view and perspective which is derived from experience and a genuine curiosity about this world and its meaning. Opinions can be thrown around easily about anything, without a real commitment to living them out.
So perhaps we can say we welcome any expression of conviction and open to hear those of others'. It's the last sentence in the Buddha's talk about belief: "...after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."
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Post by clouddust on Mar 30, 2015 1:11:57 GMT
Hello all,
Just rediscovering this post. I have a conviction about Buddha's last sentence and that is it's so very similar to the Gospel of Jesus with one exception; that human reason doesn't govern: Faith does.
What do you think?
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Post by tony on Mar 30, 2015 4:36:52 GMT
Clouddust, I would say that without reason you would not have been able to read or understand the Gospel of Jesus. I would also say that without necessarily realizing it, you used the Buddha's last recommendation to accept the message of the Gospels.
Reason is a faculty we are endowed with and can put to good use (as in the conversations on this Forum). It is not incompatible with Faith, which includes and transcends reason. Blaise Pascal put it so clearly in "The Heart [Faith] knows Reason that reason knows not". However, we need to be very alert to the common tendency to make reason the only means of understanding.
Another entry in the Glossary could be the term 'Faith'. It's a beautiful and powerful expression for the wordless and selfless Acceptance of All There Is. In contrast, 'faith' refers to a belief in something, a choosing of a belief as against another.
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Post by clouddust on Mar 30, 2015 16:08:20 GMT
Hello Tony,
It seems a good discussion is underway. A quick reply before heading out into the big world:
I think maybe I should clarify because I agree with what you said. Reason is essential, part of our human make-up and necessary to determine many facets in our existence, but, (again in agreement with you) it is not the final determining factor in believability.
In the world of medicine, science, and everyday occurrences of 'co-incidental' timing, how many things happen that are beyond our limited human reasoning; many, I'm sure.
*(I use the word 'co-incidental' to make a point but we know there are no co-incidents)
In this way, or rather because of this, I say Buddha's last recommendation is different because it declares, "with reason," to determine belief. But, as you state and I agree, Faith transcends reason.
The message of Jesus requires reason, it is reasonable, but Faith is essential more.
I just pointed to a difference.
I think it's a great idea to create some kind of glossary open for discussion.
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